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Ginger


Me, scientist and studied economist.

I know for sure that THE LIVING GOD exists,
without any doubt.

And I know further, that most economists never studied and study until today the foundations and limits of science.

Good and right thinking is one of the most arduous tasks.

Year after year, 95 per cent of students ignore advisedly this crucial point (i.e. waste of time).

Becker argues about ...
Is Sex Selection of Births Undesirable?

Abortion is merciless killing of defenceless
lives.

Is this (environment) variable in your formula, theory, doctrine integrated? Please include it, 'cause the real world is far more beautiful and complex than game theories.

The big problem for most scientist is this:
The assumptions are wrong, in parts or entirely.

Yours!
Ginger
Poor Becker, poor Posner.

Your model is totally wrong.
Every human life has the same value.
Absolutely the same. Same price. The most extreme price.
And before THE LIVING GOD everyone will be equal.
The rich will be poorer and the poor will be richer. ;)

Remember:
Loving you neighbour does not imply to like or favor lies.

Jack

Ginger: You introduce yourself as a scientist and one studied in econ but then switch immediately to matters of theology and "belief" unrelated to the disciplines of science or economics.

Perhaps you could try to shore up your theological conclusions with something from science or your knowledge of economics. Thanks, Jack

Jack

While I'd agree that sex selection is generally an unattractive concept in a nation with a strong national policy of one child only, it's unlikely that an academic conclusion to that effect will become practical policy.

One area overlooked by most Americans is that in third world countries w/o SS or retirement programs the next of kin ARE the parent's only hope of support in their declining years. The tendency for even the poorest families to have large families is the hope that enough will survive and even prosper that they can help their parents. If China wanted to address a sex selection problem their best shot would be that of implementing an SS or other retirement program.

But! with a "one child" policy China's numbers are even worse than that of the US and other aging populations in having too few "kids" coming up to support the retiring generation.

BTW isn't it something that even in this "richest of countries" that SS which pays about enough to maintain a very modest home in a low cost area and perhaps cover the maintenance of an aging vehicle, is "in trouble?" Wouldn't it seem that toiling for 40 years or more in America's productive mines would provide a cabin and a car for fifteen years?

n.e.hat

Jack, Do you really believe that S.S. is even going to be there in the years ahead? As for pensions that all of us have paid into over the years is a phantom and delusion. Even the pension insurance that we have paid into the "Pension Benefit Guarantee Corp." is on the verge of bankruptcy. And where does the true problem lie? Corporate Malfeascence in the boardroom. Just ask yourself where all the new millionaires and billionaires are coming from, not too mention their new found wealth. As for the sex determination of offspring, they are the only ones who are going to be able to afford it. As for the rest of us, keep the "Delta Pill" close at hand.

Anne

There seem to be a lot of different factors contributing to the tragedy of female infanticide in China and India. What I can not figure out is why these factors still seem to have so much affect on the populations of these countries. I am trying to get an answer to why many Eastern cultures still have it engrained in them that females are bad and males good, when this concept, though very apparent in the past in Western culture, seems to have disappeared? In western culture (up until very recently), like in eastern cultures, the man was the one who carried the family name, earned the money, received the dowry, etc, etc. So male babies were preferred in western culture. So why are the ratios balanced naturally between male and female, with very few cases of female infanticide in western culture? What is the difference, developmentally, between the two that makes such a big difference? I have been trying to figure this out, so if anyone knows, respond below, or contact me through email. Thanks!

Anne

sorry - you can email me at strideranne[at]graffiti[dot]net - thanks

Jack

N.E. Hat: Good questions and I'll hazard a shot at answering some of them:

Jack, Do you really believe that S.S. is even going to be there in the years ahead?

........ I'd say it's primarily up to the political WILL of the electorate. Young folk running around (without an "I voted" sticker to their name) and assuming SS will be stolen from them are sealing there fate.

...... Is it a money problem???? Ha! The AVERAGE per capita income in our is $45,000 per capita..... ie the AVERAGE four person household AVERAGES $180,000 of household income. I'd say that's PLENTY to provide a sound SS program.

....... But? let's say you've been trained in the "scarcity" of financial resources in our wealthy country and that your's or most or your friend's household income is more like the MEDIAN household income of $45,000 for the entire household..... then you'd be prone to "believe" and highly susceptible to the agenda of those who propagate the propaganda of scarcity and that we can't possibly "afford" SS or even the universal health care that IS provided by 30 other, less prosperous nations.

As for pensions that all of us have paid into over the years is a phantom and delusion. Even the pension insurance that we have paid into the "Pension Benefit Guarantee Corp." is on the verge of bankruptcy.

......... Indeed! And after viewing this history; WERE we an honest country, how difficult would it be to design a stainless steel piggy bank for EACH working person to carry throughout his working career that each of his employers would deposit a contribution to HIS pension which would no longer be any part of the corporate assets and would be beyond being an asset of any real or faux bankruptcies?

And where does the true problem lie? Corporate Malfeascence in the boardroom.

...... Yup! And how much longer is this heap going to be swept under the carpet? When is the average duck going to lean out the window and yell, "I'm mad as Hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!?)

Just ask yourself where all the new millionaires and billionaires are coming from, not too mention their new found wealth.

........ Recently three steel companies "went bankrupt" and their workers took a HUGE screwing wiping out 90% of their pension. After, some corporate raider put the "remnants" back together and "created" several billion of "added value" in one year. Coincidentally? the couple billion was just about what the pension fund was short.

As for the sex determination of offspring, they are the only ones who are going to be able to afford it. As for the rest of us, keep the "Delta Pill" close at hand.

...... Ha! No... too easy and 'no fun'! Here consider this: The "boomer" generation has dominated fashion and politics since the 60's, largely w/o even trying. As many approach the time of expected SS, Medicare benefits w/o adequate resources to actually retire I would not bet heavily on a government that CAN spend half a trillion on an "elective" "war" getting away with taking anything away from them.

.. Those generations younger than the boomers had better watchout to see that those like the Bush admin don't take it all for these selfish generation that is so willing to pass massive D E B T on to the next generation.

Jack

Anne asks:

"So why are the ratios balanced naturally between male and female, with very few cases of female infanticide in western culture? What is the difference, developmentally, between the two that makes such a big difference? I have been trying to figure this out, so if anyone knows, respond below, or contact me through email. Thanks!"

.......... I partially answered this question in my post just above your's. Consider, in America "social security" in old age is primarily a composite of SS, Pensions, Medicare, Medicaid, subsidized senior housing and or tax breaks. Countries not having these "safety nets" for oldster rely far more heavily on those of the next generation for their support.

...... Add in that in the US male-female income potential is nearly at par and you've most of the answer as to why parents here wouldn't have a strong bias either way. Also, consider that those who're "disappointed" by a boy or girl on the first try are free to try again, while in theory, China has but one "try".

..... I think it IS hard for Americans with a host of options and "rights" to envision what life w/o these supports would be like.

n.e.hat

Jack, You can't quite lay it all at the doorstep of the "Boomers", I'm one of the last or tail end of that generation and to tell you the truth we're running scared as well; not too mention fearful, paranoid, and living in a state of high anxiety about this. Most of us remember being stuck out on limb in place called Indochina only to have cut off behind us. When it comes to money, most of these so called businessmen have even less scruples.

David

Not one of these comments seem to consider the lonliness a human being has that is not married. Married people generally have happier lives and live longer with a better quality of life.

Moreover, when a man has the responsibility of supporting a family he is less likely to cause "trouble" in the society. Single males, especially, tend to be destabilizing elements in society.

Jack

N.E.Hat....sez:

Jack, You can't quite lay it all at the doorstep of the "Boomers", I'm one of the last or tail end of that generation and to tell you the truth we're running scared as well; not too mention fearful, paranoid, and living in a state of high anxiety about this.

......... One of the best insights I've had into the US came from a British "America watcher" journalist that I hosted many years ago. I asked what the US "looked like" from his vantage point in the UK. His response (at the time using our delayed response to environmental issues) was that America so often went right to the brink of disaster (like one of those toy cars that won't fall off a table) and then made a surprisingly hasty 90 or 180 degree turn. He's been right a LOT! Note the sudden change in Congress to our elective warmongery in the M/E.

I'd count "boomers running scared" as a strong political base. Next? I'll predict that the wage/wealth gap that threatens what's left of our "democracy" will join with health care and SS as major issues of our VERY lengthy Presidential campaign.


"Most of us remember being stuck out on limb in place called Indochina only to have cut off behind us."

.hmmm, I suppose there is still much to be said, and learned, from that deadly fiasco that has not been learned by those who partied and were socially passed through Yale on Cliff notes and frat house cheat sheets?

"When it comes to money, most of these so called businessmen have even less scruples."

........ not sure what you are getting at here.

Jack

David you seem to speak as if our own society were predominately comprised of four person "Ozzie and Harriet" "traditional" families, but there are today, more living singly than otherwise.

As for loneliness, starting off with equal numbers of females, a host of factors including riskier occupations for men, high rates of gun deaths and our predilection toward warmongering results in there being far more older women who live alone and might be the major victims of the loneliness you mention. BUT! it seems not necessarily the case as older women socialize more than men and may well not be as "lonely" as the stats of living alone would indicate.

As for fears of surpluses of single men "destabilizing" a nation, I wonder whether it's true, and wonder whether China would have more than the US where men are often single through the the "unstable" years of their young adulthood and in between their serial marriages?

The subject of sex selection and the effect of a sex bias on a society seems to big and amorphous to come to much of any conclusion.

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