March 6, 2006
The New American Dilemma: Illegal Immigration-BECKER
President Bush proposed in 2004 that illegal immigrants with jobs be allowed to stay for up to six years. For good as well as bad reasons, his proposal has not gone anywhere in Congress. Mainly because of political obstacles I do not see any attractive policies toward the flow of illegal immigrants.
The US has six basic options toward illegal immigration:
1) This country can continue its current policy of beefing up border security, and sending apprehended illegal immigrants back to Mexico, or wherever else they came from. Meanwhile undocumented workers who are not caught remain eligible for various kinds of health care, schooling for their children, and other benefits.
2) Illegal immigration could be discouraged by giving apprehended aliens jail sentences before sending them back to where they came from.
3) Employers could be punished for hiring illegal workers.
4) Illegal immigrants could be allowed to come, but would be ineligible for government transfers, such as health benefits or schooling.
5) Illegal immigrants could come and be eligible for all the public benefits available to other residents.
6) Illegal immigrants could be allowed to remain for a certain number of years if they have jobs, but then they would have to go back after their time expires, whether or not they are still employed.
None are satisfactory, as we can determine by considering each of these options in turn.
1) The present policy of sending back apprehended aliens is not effective in deterring illegal immigration since many of these simply turn around and cross the border again. Various studies show that it is easy with enough persistence to come across from Mexico, guided by "cayotes" who do not charge that much. I doubt whether the recent tightening up of border patrols will do much to raise the cost of crossing illegally.
2) Most Americans do not wish to give significant jail sentences to illegal aliens whose only crime is that they want to come to this country, usually seeking higher wages and better working conditions than they have had. Yet in the absence of such punishment, immigrants will continue to flow across the border, pulled by earnings that are 5-10 times higher than what they could earn in Mexico and most other Latin American nations. So the only effective way to deter illegal immigration is not politically feasible, and is not attractive on moral grounds.
3) The 1986 immigration law barred employers from hiring illegal immigrants, but it did not help employers determine when potential employees had forged documents. It is cheap to buy forged social security cards, green cards, and anything else that would certify an employee is in this country legally. Unless that defect is overcome, and it will not be easy, the courts will continue to be reluctant to punish employers for hiring workers who turn out to be here illegally.
4) I am attracted by a policy that allows illegal immigrants to come, but denies them eligibility for any government assistance, or to apply for citizenship unless they return home and apply through normal channels. Some states have tried aspects of such a policy, but courts threw out their attempts to limit the education and medical care of children of undocumented immigrants, and emergency room medical care for adults.
5) The government can concede defeat and allow immigrants to be eligible for all benefits available to other residents. This approach too runs into opposition from many groups that believe immigrants lower the earnings of Americans, and accuse immigrants of enjoying medical, schooling, and other benefits paid for by American taxpayers.
6) Finally, we come to the President’s proposal for guest workers. He said in a speech in 2004:
"I propose a new temporary worker program that will match willing foreign workers with willing American employers, when no Americans can be found to fill the jobs. All who participate in the temporary worker program must have a job, or, if not living in the United States, a job offer. The legal status granted by this program will last three years and will be renewable -- but it will have an end. Participants who do not remain employed, who do not follow the rules of the program, or who break the law will not be eligible for continued participation and will be required to return to their home.
Employers who extend job offers must first make every reasonable effort to find an American worker for the job at hand. Employers must not hire undocumented aliens or temporary workers whose legal status has expired. All participants will be issued a temporary worker card that will allow them to travel back and forth between their home and the United States without fear of being denied re-entry into our country.
This program expects temporary workers to return permanently to their home countries after their period of work in the United States has expired. Some temporary workers will make the decision to pursue American citizenship. They will not be given unfair advantage over people who have followed legal procedures from the start. I oppose amnesty, placing undocumented workers on the automatic path to citizenship. Granting amnesty encourages the violation of our laws, and perpetuates illegal immigration. America is a welcoming country, but citizenship must not be the automatic reward for violating the laws of America."
This proposal and similar ones sound good on paper, but they are unworkable, and in most respects undesirable. After six years of employment as documented guest workers, what is to prevent these workers from becoming undocumented after their total term as guests expires? In fact, after working that long, they will have become accustomed to living in this country, especially if their children are in school, and if they marry or have spouses when they came who also earn good money, or made the adjustment to living in this country. Then we are back to the present situation with formerly documented guest workers becoming undocumented.
The most desirable type of immigrant commits to this country, its values, language, and culture. Immigrants who came during the nineteenth and most of the 20th century made this commitment, and usually their children were fully integrated into American culture. But immigrants under the President’s guest worker program have little reason to become integrated if they plan to go back to their native countries after their six years as guest workers expires.
In addition, it is a bureaucratic nightmare to require that "employers who extend job offers must first make every reasonable effort to find an American worker for the job". A lot of phony efforts are made, and who can determine if an effort was sincere? Moreover, such a stipulation displays ignorance of how competitive labor markets operate. The market for the unskilled or low skilled labor provided by Mexican illegal immigrants is usually highly competitive, with jobs available at the going wage to everyone who is willing to work at that wage.
Open immigration to America worked well during the 19th century because the government did very little for immigrants and their families. How immigrants voted after becoming citizens also mattered little because government decisions were not so important. With the growth of government during the past half century, neither of these conditions continues to hold, so the case for open immigration is fatally weakened.
Compounding this decline in the willingness to accept immigrants, during the past half century the incentive to immigrate from poor to rich countries has greatly increased with the growing gap between earnings in these countries, and much faster and cheaper modes of travel. Rough estimates put the number of illegal immigrants in this country at six to eight million- with about 500,000 entering every year. This clash between the flow of immigration and the resistance of rich countries creates the urgency of the challenge of designing better policies toward immigration.
If apprehended illegal aliens are not to be punished, if illegal entrants are not to be denied significant benefits, and if employers are not punished for hiring illegal immigrants, the only workable solution is to allow virtually unlimited illegal immigration. This can be combined with a face-saving gesture toward immigration control through beefed-up border patrols that return thousands of apprehended aliens to Mexico and elsewhere.
Can anything else be done? The US can try to help Mexico develop economically, for that would sharply cut back the number of Mexicans who want to work in the US. The NAFTA Free Trade agreement is an important step in the right direction, but Mexico has to take the lead in providing a good environment for faster economic growth. Unfortunately, while important policy changes have been implemented, progress has been slow in recent years, and a left wing candidate is the favorite in the upcoming presidential elections.
I favor among all the least good policies reducing the benefits available to illegal immigrants in recognition that it is impossible to stem the flow of illegal immigration. This would require denying illegal aliens access to most health, education, and other benefits. If that is not feasible politically, illegal immigration will constitute perhaps the major American Dilemma during the coming decade.
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How immigrants voted after becoming citizens also mattered little because government decisions were not so important.
This comment intrigued me... care to explain more? Why were decisions less important then? Arguably those were the "formative years" of America, the time that led to its current might and prominence.
Posted by Adam at March 6, 2006 4:38 AM | direct link
The highlighted issue that you've taken into limelight is quite inquisitive....there's a need to study it more closely before saying anything.
Posted by victor at March 6, 2006 7:32 AM | direct link
Very interesting post. I have lived in the United Kingdom since 1998, and illegal immigration has been a prominent issue for the duration. Most if not all at some point apply for political asylum, for that grants them an automatic right to stay whilst their claim (including an automatic right of appeal) is determined. During that period they are also entitled to state housing and other assistance. They are not, however, permitted to work.
Needless to say, whatever your view of Britain's obligation to refugees, and however many of the immigrants are genuine political refugees (both points being the subject of fevered public debate), that system produces the worst of all worlds. It precludes immigrants from offering labour. It encourages cheating of the system, both in filing false claims and working illegally, without tax contributions on the one hand and without union protection on the other.
The situation has become so politically charged that it is hard to find reasoned debate in the media, and certain important subjects, such as the incidence of communicable diseases amongst illegal immigrants (reputedly very high amongst those from sub-Saharan Africa) are taboo.
I think the lessons for America, and indeed Britain itself, are, first, that precluding immigrants from working is no disincentive to them coming. Precluding them from health care or subsistence food isn't an option either - a civilised society doesn't let those within its borders starve however they got there. So it is no use stating that illegal immigrants should be entitled neither to work nor to benefits; Britain and I very much suspect the USA would not allow that. Secondly, there are real public health issues that have to be confronted, not brushed under the carpet. Third, the system needs to encourage a positive contribution, not simply funnel handouts towards refugees while telling them they cannot work.
It is said that immigrants are needed because of low birth rates, an ageing population and the attendant spiralling pension costs. But it is no solution in the long term, since immigrants themselves will just get older. Taking a national sovereignty view, perhaps something along the lines of that operated by several of the Gulf states might be in order. There immigrants are allowed so long as they have jobs, but are allowed only on a finite basis and must return by the time of their retirement. That suites both: the donor countries receive reparations from expatriates in the Gulf, while the Gulf states receive labour and taxes. Perhaps the US might think of something along those lines for Mexico.
Posted by James Wilson at March 6, 2006 8:20 AM | direct link
The fact that our present policy does not prevent a lot of illegal immigration does not mean it's worthless: it biases the population of illegal immigrants toward the fit, the energetic, and the motivated.
Posted by Peter Pearson at March 6, 2006 10:22 AM | direct link
First, I think the important thing to remember is that immigration has been a huge boon for this country historically. Why is now any different? If we assume that immigration continues to be a good thing for the USA then the question should be...how can we ensure that we get the most bang for our buck? Some ideas might include:
1) increase legal immigration (in a major way)but do not have a cap on how long an individual can stay in this country. If an immigrant has a job, is contributing to society...why would we kick her out? By eliminating the cap, we would encourage immigrants to invest in learning about the country, its customs, its cities, etc...some immigrants would still return to their native home, others would want to become citizens.
2) stop paying for services for illegal immigrants over a one-two year time period...this would allow illegal immigrants that are in this country time to go through normal channels to gain reentry into the country (this deters illegal immigration). It also is more politically feasible...if we have an easy way to gain access to this country legally then people who are here illegally should be treated as law-breakers.
3) work more closely with the Mexican government to tighten the border - this is a national security issue - we should know who is in the country and our borders should be secure. The carrot for the Mexican government is the increased number of visas that the US will offer to its emmigrants...
Posted by Steven Strnad at March 6, 2006 11:07 AM | direct link
Dear Professor Becker:
I have three comments to your posting on illegal immigration:
1) I'm not so certain that illegal immigration is a true 'problem'; we must balance the social benefits as well as the social costs of illegal immigration, and like Posner, I believe that the benefits tend to outweigh the costs (i.e. there is an 'optimal' amount of illegal immigration, though I would concede that it is a difficult empirical question to determine whether 500,000 illegals per year exceeds that optimum);
2) I understand your argument in favor of jail sentences, but I wonder if the social cost of imprisonment far exceeds the benefits (deterrence); as you yourself correctly noted in your 1968 crime and punishment paper, the use of prisons is often not the most cost-effective method to deter anti-social behavior (i.e. fines are often more efficient than prisons, though I understand that most illegals might lack the funds to pay a fine to the INS);
3) this leads me to my last point: you mention the existence of 'coyotes' (middlemen who help illegals cross the border) but I believe you are mistaken when you state that they don't charge much. In relative terms, illegals often invest their entire life savings to pay a coyote to help them cross the border. If they are caught and sent back, they in effect lose their investment (and, as I see it, such loss operates as a makeshift fine).
One more thing. I;m puzzled that you did not mention your earlier proposal to, in effect, sell 'immigration licenses' to people who want to come to the United States (I read this proposal in the book of short essays you co-wrote with your wife, which you signed and dedicated to me when I met you at the University of Chicago last month).
Posted by F.E. Guerra-Pujol ('paco') at March 6, 2006 11:31 AM | direct link
The most desirable type of immigrant commits to this country, its values, language, and culture.
Not so long ago, I moved from Michigan to California. I didn't have to prove that I was committed to the values and culture of California or that I liked the government of California or even that I was favorably disposed toward the people of California.
I just decided to move there for my own reasons (job opportunities, actually) and once I got there I went through the paperwork of registering as a "citizen" of California (that is, getting a California driver's license and registering to vote).
Now, Californian's would undoubtedly benefit in a number of ways by restricting "immigration" to California from other states. They could, for example, only allow people to move to California who were likely to contribute to California's economy. They could also exclude people for other reasons such as criminal records.
I'm not sure why they don't restrict this "immigration" but I assume that it is because of a core American value: "Freedom isn't free." The people of California are willing to sacrifice economically because of their commitment to freedom.
Californian's could also benefit in terms of security if they implemented strict border inspections along their border with other states. There are undoubtedly many people bringing drugs and weapons and other items into California from other states that are then used in the commission of crimes against Californians.
I'm not sure why Californians don't defend themselves by implementing strict border controls but I assume that it is because of another core American value: "Live free or die." The people of California are willing to sacrifice their security because of their commitment to freedom.
Any argument for why the United States should control its borders with other countries applies to why Californians should control their borders with other states. Personally, I want to live in a world where moving to another country is as easy as moving to another state. Then again, given that Republicans control the United States and given that freedom is far down the list of things that Republicans care about, such a world is a long way off.
Posted by Wes at March 6, 2006 11:47 AM | direct link
1. Jailing illegal immigrants for any deterrent length of time will be too expensive. Why not send some 'extra' illegal immigrants to U.S. underdeveloped areas like Guam.
2. On the supply side, U.S. should examine ways to provide Mexican government incentives to stop emigration from that country.
3. On the demand side, economically significant penalties on U.S. employers hiring illegal workers are needed.
Posted by Arun Khanna at March 6, 2006 12:00 PM | direct link
I think the follwoing measures should be taken to solve this growing problem.
First of all children born to illegal immigrants should not be given citizenship. I understand that we need to changethe constitution for this. Given the severity of this problem this step is a must.
second, no schooling or medical facilities should be allowed for these immigrants. Emergency medical cost, deportation cost or any other cost incurred on these immigrants should be billed to their respective countries.
Border patrols should be incresed.
Anybody reporting about these immigrants should be awarded. This will motivate people to report anyone they know of.
Work authorizatiion card should be cancelled for the employers who hire such immigrants.
Posted by vs at March 6, 2006 9:40 PM | direct link
We could stop illegal immigration tomorrow with 75 arrests and 25 expulsions:
1. Arrest 25 executives of major corporations that employ illegal aliens.
2. Arrest 25 executives of banks that profit off giving illegal aliens mortgages, deposting their money, and sending their remittances.
3. Arrest 25 corrupt politicians who are in effect paid to look the other way by #1 and #2.
4. Expel 25 Mexican consuls. (Since they've got more consulates in the U.S. than any other country, perhaps that number would need to be increased.)
All the greatest schemes in the world mean nothing if they aren't enforced. Any laws that were passed would be just as ignored as our current immigration laws, and for the same reason: corruption. That's what lies at the heart of the illegal immigration issue, and that's what needs to be addressed.
See my link for hundreds of posts with background information on illegal immigration, and see immref.com for some of the lies Bush, other politicians, and the media use.
Posted by IllegalImmigrationNews at March 6, 2006 11:33 PM | direct link
How about we annex just Mexico?
Posted by brian at March 7, 2006 7:05 AM | direct link
Brian said: How about we annex just Mexico?
Some would argue the statement should be: How about we complete the annexation of Mexico.
Posted by Arun Khanna at March 7, 2006 1:05 PM | direct link
IllegalImmigrationNews simply proves how often more heat than light is brought to this subject.
In the spirit of Jonathan Swift's Modest Proposal, he could increase the effect of his proposals by suggesting that the CBP round up 25 of those attempting to enter the US each week and shooting them.
The fact is that the economic incentives for migration into the US are so strong (and, apparently, the opportunities for a life outside abject poverty in Mexico and other Latin American countries so small) that none of the proposals Prof. Becker makes are likely to have much effect on the decision to migrate or not.
Life in the US would have to become hellish awful to compare to the utter lack of opportunity that faces so many in Mexico. Furthermore, I do not believe that the American people, no matter how much they claim to dislike illegal immigration, would be willing to abide the harshness of the measures that would be required to remove the millions of aliens now here illegally.
Posted by Mark B. at March 7, 2006 1:17 PM | direct link
I simply don't understand what your argument for denying illegal immigrants services is. It seems to rest on an unsupported assumption that allowing illegal immigrants to come here and get services is a bad thing. That is far from clear for me.
In particular this seems to rest on some assumption that it is better to use our resources to help US citizens. Yet surely we don't think that US citizens are somehow more capable of suffering or more worthy human beings. Then why should we favor US citizens with wealth transfers, social security or other forms of charity. Surely the poor from other countries would benefit more from our tax dollars than most Americans would.
Of course there is a limit to how 'unselfish' we should be, if we are too generous/fair our social system will fall apart. If we donated all our tax revenue to help Bolvia we wouldn't have anything to donate next year. However, we are a far cry from this situation.
In short I'm arguing we should be taking as many immigrants as we can without breaking our resources. It isn't morally acceptable to put the interest of US citizens above that of mexicans or other nationalities and if these immigrants are lowering wages, taking tax money or whatever I say GREAT. These immigrants tend to be far poorer than even the badly off in the US and thus they probably benefit more from what they take than we are hurt.
Posted by logicnazi at March 7, 2006 1:18 PM | direct link
Ohh and some form of fallback on "but it's the law" won't help you at all. The real question is what should the law be. I tend to believe the law should just make it illegal to be caught being an illegal immigrant but give amnesty after 3-5 years of living in this country with no convictions and avoiding the law. Thus giving a hurdle so we aren't overrun by massive waves of immigration but making sure they are ultimately given the same status as US citizens. Still it is an imperfect solution, I would prefer some other form of hurdle which makes sure only the immigrants who are really dedicated make it here but doesn't encourage them to dangerously cross borders or expose them to potential blackmail.
In any case the argument that 'it's the law anyone who violates it ought to be dealt with harshly' doesn't fly unless you favor the death penalty for speeding. Sometimes speeding is worth the risk of a ticket and sometimes immigration is worth the risk of the penalty. We don't have to view the immigration laws as any more serious than speeding laws, a penalty meant to deter too much of certain behavior nor really meant to cut it off entierly.
Posted by logicnazi at March 7, 2006 1:24 PM | direct link
Thank you Prof. Becker.
Some thoughts
1. The term is "coyotes". At the end of the day, the coyotes are the ones who benefit the most from stronger border controls. It just lets them raise their price. Those with �know how� quickly take monopoly control at the expense of those hard working immigrants who are rational (and wealthy) enough to leave their country to go to America.
2. We should remember that immigrants are rarely come from the poorest stratum in their own countries. Illegal immigration requires a substantial amount of persistence, creativity, personal drive, and a certain love for risk. More importantly, it requires a substantial amount of capital.
3. You are right in pointing out that the ultimate solution to immigration is improving prospects for jobs in countries of origin. The signing of CAFTA is a step towards this and I wish Congressmen recognized this. I think that the US administration should take a cold look at China and the effects that Chinese competition has on low income countries like Mexico, El Salvador, and Honduras that have (or had!) a comparative advantage in cheap labor. Then they should realize that they have a chance to warn of future political instability and more migration by strengthening economic growth in these regions today. The signs coming from CA are heartbreaking.
Mexico might take a turn for the worse. My dislike for Obrador does not temper my dislike for the current president. He was given a historical mandate and he spent it poorly. What a sham. He has been unable to counter rampant drug related violence in the north of the country. This is something that the former ruling party held relatively under control. Since the Mexican government can do nothing about drug legislation in the US, their next best choice is to choose a �champion� and give him hegemony over other drug lords. It is true that the business will always have potential entrants due to high profit margins, but something must be done to counter the gory violence and shootouts that occur midday in northern Mexican towns.
4. We should strengthen the instruments by which immigrants, illegal or not, send remittances home. In some cases these flows represent the bulk of poverty spending in the countries of origin.
5. I would like to hear your thoughts on the gang problem in Central America how it relates to immigration. An aspect of the problem that economics has a harder time dealing with is the breakdown of the family structure that arises from immigration. Many children are left behind with their grandmothers meanwhile their parents scrap a living in America. These children do not have an authority figure, and then no jobs. At the end of the day, a gang member realizes that the returns (and risks) to being a gang member are much higher in the US, and so they export the problem into our borders.
I hope America takes advantage of immigration instead of trying to ignore it like Europeans do. There is no reason why immigration cannot be channeled into being an overwhelmingly positive thing for a country. We have the choice between being an impetuous Prince that takes advantage of the window that Lady Fortune opened for us, or we can be like autoworkers in the 80s and whine whine whine and then become uncompetitive and perish�
Posted by anaxanagorenas at March 7, 2006 10:56 PM | direct link
Dear Mark B.:
If not for the groups I mentioned, there would be no illegal immigration problem.
If employers were afraid to hire illegal aliens, there would be no jobs. If bankers were afraid to take their money, they'd have a great deal of trouble living here as they do now. And, if corrupt politicians were afraid to support illegal immigration, it would be greatly reduced.
I mentioned the heart of the problem: corrupt employers, corrupt bankers, and corrupt politicians.
And, of course, the corrupt oligarchy of Mexico.
Those are the underlying reasons why we have illegal immigration, and until they're dealt with the problem won't be solved.
Posted by IllegalImmigrationNews at March 7, 2006 10:58 PM | direct link
At the end of the day, the coyotes are the ones who benefit the most from stronger border controls. It just lets them raise their price. Those with �know how� quickly take monopoly control at the expense of those hard working immigrants who are rational (and wealthy) enough to leave their country to go to America.
Your argument violates common sense. Higher prices = fewer customers. Rich people already have a way in to the U.S. and have no need for coyotes.
Posted by IllegalImmigrationNews at March 7, 2006 11:02 PM | direct link
Hi IIN,
Thank you for your response.
I am certainly not an expert on immigration, nor do I have perfect information about the market. I admit I was making several assumptions about the cost structure and the composition of the market for smuggling people over to the US from Mexico.
I first assumed that it must be expensive to become a Coyote and very expensive to develop and maintain clandestine entrances into the United States. Then I assumed that it was easiest (cheapest) for one or a few coalitions of Coyotes to provide the service to those seeking illegal entrance into the US (I do not know this empirically). The fact that Coyotes are notoriously violent and that they may work along with the drug trade strengthens this view.
Putting these together, what I said does not violate common sense. If Coyotes hold a monopoly on the illegal passage to Mexico and we see that border control are reinforced, it would seem to be logical that this would increase barriers to entry and therefore strengthen the hold that existing Coyotes have on the market. Of course, I am simplifying things and may be leaving out elements that are crucial to the profit stream of Coyotes. I may even be overestimating the coordination and cohesiveness of a Coyote organization.
In light of these arguments, I believe that my statement seems not to violate common sense (do please let me know how I may correct my understanding of this issue).
Now, it may prove to be empirically wrong, but your argument about the passage of rich people misunderstands my use of �wealthy enough�. Immigrants are commonly misconceived as coming from the poorest strata of their country of origin. In economic literature, immigration is typically seen as an investment decision, and in this context, it involves a lot of capital and heavy risks for those involved. The price people pay to be smuggled is high, but not high enough to confuse the argument as stating that only �rich� people can afford to cross. Furthermore, those you call �rich� probably have the resources to stay in Mexico and do well at home. Overall, maybe rich Mexicans cross the border for education rather than wages. Ultimately, it is because they can afford the higher risk and income forgone of pursuing higher education.
In any event, we would need to find out the mean payment to a Coyote for smuggling and the cost structure and composition of the market. We would also have to know the average wage of a potential immigrant and how he or she perceives an economic downturn at home and relative wages in the US. In addition, though larger families may make it harder for an immigrant to move to the US, larger families may be better at accumulating the capital necessary for some members to attempt a move across the border. I have started to look at the literature on the subject to see if it may shed light on these questions.
One paper by Audrey Singer and Douglas S. Massey (1998) makes the interesting point that those that cross over more than once probably increase their border-crossing abilities and therefore have a lower demand for Coyote smuggling in subsequent games. To me this sets an incentive for Coyotes to act in a very predatory manner with first time crossers.
Please let me know if you find any good evidence on the subject or your general argument.
Posted by anaxanagorenas at March 8, 2006 3:13 AM | direct link
here is something that worked...
http://www.tabunka.org/newsletter/immigration_p2.html
Posted by st at March 8, 2006 7:04 PM | direct link
It would seem to me that allowing large amounts of Immigrants into the United States would have a negative effect on those Latin Americans that stay put, a negative effect on current low-income Americans, and a positive effect on wealthy Americans. I'll go over my reasoning one group at a time.
What are the group characteristics of successful immigrants? I don't know of any data on this, but I would bet that they are the wealthier, more intelligent, and more ambitious members of whatever nation they're fleeing. By permitting high levels of immigration, we're skimming the demographic cream off of any country with significant emmigration, making it much harder for stability, free markets, and democracy to take hold. This is bad for the people living in those countries, and for Americans, whose security very much depends on the third world's ability to offer opportunities to their citizens that don't involve bomb belts and machetes.
More unskilled workers bid down the price of unskilled labor, resulting in fewer/worse jobs for poor Americans. That's pretty straightforward.
Wealthy Americans benefit from cheaper unskilled labor; all of a sudden a live-in maid, gardener and grape-peeler don't seem so expensive, along with fast food and many of the goods we buy. The influx of labor would also bid up the price of capital, resulting in better returns on investments for those who can afford them.
Basically, what is it we want to accomplish with mass immigration that we couldn't accomplish more easily with pure free trade? Let the jobs chase the workers, instead of vice versa.
Posted by New Jack at March 9, 2006 4:00 AM | direct link
"...require denying illegal aliens access to most health, education, and other benefits"
In regards to health benefits, isn't access already restrictive? Illegal aliens don't have access to health insurance, and I would imagine many would not wish to present themselves to receiving particular health benefits in fear of jeopardizing their ability to remain in the US. Moreover, a de facto "denial" of such benefits perhaps would give rise to (an already existing) underground market to provide health benefits (and even at lower costs) to illegal immigrants.
Furthermore, for access to educational benefits, aren't most illegal immigrants already categorized amongst the lowest rung of education? George Borjas, I believe, recently published a study that categorizes the poor educational attainment potential for certain demographics, particularly amongst Latino immigrants [who comprise the majority demographic of illegal immigrants], and illegal immigrants in general. If it is the case that illegal immigrants (b)have a more difficult time gaining educational access at even the most basic levels (elementary and secondary schools), and (b)do not have incentives to gain an education [by wishing to earn money via cheap labor, stickiness of their particular communities, and so forth], then what effect would a de facto denial of educational benefits do to curb illegal immigration?
Posted by PJS at March 9, 2006 11:03 AM | direct link
What makes Prof. Becker think that cutting off access to health, education, and welfare services would make people that much less likely to come? Most people (including immigrants) presumably are much more aware of wage differentials than they are the value of these services. On the margin withholding services must, admittedly, make a difference. But the difference between immigration levels without benefits and immigration levels with benefits may be negligible in light of the wage differentials.
Becker also does not address the option of extending a number of permanent resident worker visas that approaches the anticipated number of illegal immigrants. This is way different from simply ignoring illegal immigration, particularly from the perspective of the immigrant, who does not have to live in fear of CIS. Such a visa program is also perhaps the most popular legislative option under consideration. The issue remains, of course, about what kind of worker visa to offer those out of status who are already here.
Posted by Bill Korner at March 9, 2006 2:43 PM | direct link
My mistake. It's not (I don't think) CIS that those out of status have to fear.
Posted by Bill Korner at March 9, 2006 2:46 PM | direct link
Hi Bill,
I look forward to the answer of your first question.
What is CIS?
thanks,
anaxanagorenas
Posted by anaxanagorenas at March 9, 2006 10:51 PM | direct link
A national ID card, coupled with penalties for hiring undocumented persons, should solve the problem, along with a fine to the hiring person and the individual subject to deportation. Increases the costs if apprehended and increases the probability of detection. It is no excuse to say I relied on a forged social security card. There are many, many secured cards today that are used for an infinite variety of businesses that need security.
Card technology is here and its use will increase in the future. Put in place the systems that will detect and involve the market in the solution.
Posted by Bill at March 10, 2006 2:57 PM | direct link
I was told that most European immigrants came to America with the intention of returning to their native countries after they had earned a bankroll. (Irish and Jews less then most.)
Two world wars tended to forge strong nationalistic feelings and most stayed in America for generations.
I don't know the view of current immigrants from Latin countries. Are they coming to stay or to earn a bankroll? My response would be very different for each response.
Clearly the best long run solution is to grow the Mexican economy.
The best short run solutions are to stop giving citizenship based on accident of birth, limit access to social services, (but do nothing to prevent private charities or churches), and increase penalties for hiring illegal workers.
Posted by Dan C at March 10, 2006 6:51 PM | direct link
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Posted by anon at March 10, 2006 7:13 PM | direct link
Bill, thank you for the clarification.
IIN, myself and others are still waiting for your response.
Posted by anaxanagorenas at March 10, 2006 9:52 PM | direct link
We don't have a current policy of beefing up border security. We have a current policy of making a show of beefing up border security, as a sop to the public, while keeping the border as insecure as possible. That's why the administration was so hostile to the Minutemen: By observing and reporting illegal border crossings, they made it difficult to turn a blind eye to them.
Any reasoning that starts from the premise that we're currently making a serious effort to obstruct illegal border crossings, and that therefore simply policing the border can't be effective, is utterly divorced from reality. We won't know if we can secure the border until we've actually TRIED.
Posted by Brett Bellmore at March 11, 2006 2:01 PM | direct link
Hi Brett. Intersting point about the minutement and the Bush administration's attitude towards them.
"Any reasoning that starts from the premise that we're currently making a serious effort to obstruct illegal border crossings, and that therefore simply policing the border can't be effective, is utterly divorced from reality. We won't know if we can secure the border until we've actually TRIED."
is also a good point. However, this does not take away from the fact that a long run a solution to immigration woes must go beyond policing the border.
Posted by anaxanagorenas at March 11, 2006 10:04 PM | direct link
"I am attracted by a policy that allows illegal immigrants to come, but denies them eligibility for any government assistance."
I don't see what's so attractive about intentionally letting people get sick or allowing 8-year-olds to linger without any education. I would have thought that acute medical care for adults and basic education for children were the lowest common denominator for approaching this problem, so long as my preferred approach of imprisoning apprehended illegals is not feasible.
Posted by Steve P at March 12, 2006 12:53 AM | direct link
Having just gone through a massive expenditure of time, expense and paperwork to adopt three orphaned kids from overseas you might think I have sympathy for illegal aliens here. Nope. In fact I probably have less sympathy for those here illegally having gone through the legal process to bring three kids here, and I don't, frankly, much care about the motivations and reasons for those staying here illegally.
Life's tough all over, and entire sections of the U.S. are being fiscally strained to the breaking point by the numbers of illegal immigrants now here.
Posted by H. Blix at March 13, 2006 6:51 PM | direct link
Some anecdotal data, from the south side of the border. These are my impressions, but may be useful to the debate, anyhow.
Minimum legal wage in Mexico is about USD80/month. About 40% of our population is below that. About 60% is below two minimum wages.
There seem to be two main classes of inmigrants. The poorest people will usually emigrate looking for any job at all. Usually conditions are desperate enough to take a life-risking choice. It's mostly male only emigration and it's not unusual to find towns entirely devoid of adult males. They usually intend to stay 'just for a while' until they 'save enough.' Their spending while abroad is normally very limited. They usually (try to) send back most of their earnings. A common use for those sendings is to raise the capital to allow some other relative to emigrate. Wife and kids emigrate after the husband has had a rather long time to settle, not only because of the cost, but also because of the danger of crossing. The crossing will sometimes be done without the help of a coyote, which of course lowers the cost but increases the risk. This seems to be a mainly rural phenomenon. People in this class will usually have very little education, often less than 6 years of school.
The other kind of emigration is from city people who earn enough to make a living but are disgruntled with their economic conditions. There will often be a higher level of education, a few times all the way up to some college. It's more common for a family to try to get there together from the beginning. They know they will be taking on low-status jobs but are willing to trade that for economical stability. They will make the crossing with a coyote, and view the expense explicitely as investment. Said expense will be a major chunck of their savings, but usually not deplete them completely, or at least not irreversibly. This families expect their children to grow up to be 'average americans'. I have no idea how many of them acomplish that.
As for legal emigration, it's almost non-existent. I would say it's a few temporary worker programs, post-graduate students with pre-aranged positions in universities and high ranking executives of mexican subsidiaries of int'l corporations getting promoted. I've never actualy heard of someone outside those narrow classes try to do it.
Posted by Rodrigo Gallardo at March 13, 2006 7:37 PM | direct link
Here are some of the questions I think need to be addressed on this issue:
1). What illegal immigration policy is in the public interest? Not what illegal immigration policy is in the interest of illegal aliens, what illegal immigration policy is in the interest of American citizens and legal immigrants.
2). can the United States continue to exist as a sovereign nation if it refuses to enforce its immigration laws?
3). Can the United States continue to exist as a prosperous nation if American jobs are filled by whoever in the world is willing to perform a particular job at the lowest common denominator wage within the global labor market?
4). Can America continue to have a social safety net if we allow an uncontrolled influx of poor people from other nations whose needs for taxpayer-funded services vastly outweighs their ability to contribute to those systems?
5). Even aside for the adverse impact of illegal immigration on Americas working poor, trying to achieve a better life for their families, where is the morality in illegal immigration even from the standpoint of the people who come here. They have not been selected based on need. Illegal immigration is extremely discriminatory on the basis of national origin, since those in close proximity such as Mexicans come in far larger numbers than those from places such as Africa, so that those who come, on the whole, are far less needy than those who do not.
These are a few miscellaneous questions that deserve consideration.
Also, let me make a shameless pitch for my upcoming book "Immigration Politics" which should be in print around May 2006.
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