Posner has a good discussion of the various issue related to capital punishment. I will concentrate my comments on deterrence, which is really the crucial issue in the acrimonious debate over capital punishment. I support the use of capital punishment for persons convicted of murder because, and only because, I believe it deters murders. If I did not believe that, I would be opposed because revenge and the other possible motives that are mentioned and discussed by Posner, should not be a basis for public policy.
As Posner indicates, serious empirical research on capital punishment began with Isaac Ehrlich's pioneering paper. Subsequent studies have sometimes found much weaker effects than he found, while others, including a recent one cited by Posner, found a much larger effect than even that found by Ehrlich. The available data are quite limited, however, so one should not base any conclusions solely on the econometric evidence, although I believe that the preponderance of evidence does indicate that capital punishment deters.
Of course, public policy on punishments cannot wait until the evidence is perfect. Even with the limited quantitative evidence available, there are good reasons to believe that capital punishment deters murders. Most people, and murderers in particular, fear death, especially when it follows swiftly and with considerable certainty following the commission of a murder. As Posner indicates, the deterrent effect of capital punishment would be greater if the delays in its implementation were much shortened, and if this punishment was more certain to be used in the appropriate cases. But I agree with Posner that capital punishment has an important deterrent effect even with the way the present system actually operates.
Opponents of capital punishment frequently proclaim that the State has no moral right to take the life of anyone, even a most reprehensible murderer. Yet that is absolutely the wrong conclusion for anyone who believes that capital punishment deters. To show why, suppose that for each murderer executed (instead of say receiving life imprisonment), the number of murders is reduced by three- which is a much lower number than Ehrlich's estimate of the deterrent effect. This implies that for each murderer not given capital punishment, three generally innocent victims would die. This argument means that the government would indirectly be "taking" many lives if it did not use capital punishment. The lives so taken are usually much more worthwhile than that of the murderers who would be spared execution. For this reason, the State has a "moral" obligation to use capital punishment if such punishment significantly reduces the number of murders and saves lives of innocent victims.
Saving three other lives for every person executed seems like a very attractive trade-off. Even two lives saved per execution seem like a persuasive benefit-cost ratio for capital punishment. But let us go further and suppose only one life was saved for each murderer executed. Wouldn’t the trade-off still be desirable if the life saved is much better than the life taken, which would usually be the case? As the deterrent effect of capital punishment is made smaller, at some point even I would shift to the anti-capital punishment camp. But given the difference between victims and murderers, the deterrent effect would have to be considerable less than one person saved per murderer executed before I would shift positions, although account should also be taken of the considerable expense involved in using capital punishment.
Of course, one wants to be sure that the number of persons wrongly executed for murder is a very small fraction of the total number executed. Posner argues convincingly that the safeguards built into the American system are considerable. They do not prevent any innocent persons from being executed, but they certainly make the risk very low. Capital punishment cannot be used if the goal is never to erroneously execute anyone, but then its deterrent effect is lost completely.
European governments are adamantly opposed to capital punishment, and some Europeans consider the American use of this punishment to be barbaric. But Europeans have generally been "soft" on most crimes during the past half-century. For a long time they could be smug because their crime rates were well below American rates. But during the past twenty years European crime has increased sharply while American rates have fallen-in part because American apprehension and conviction rates have increased considerably. Now some European countries have higher per capita property crime rates than the United States does, although violent crimes are still considerably more common in the United States. At the same time that America was reducing crime greatly in part by greater use of punishments, many European intellectuals continued to argue that not just capital punishments, but punishments in general, do not deter.
To repeat, the capital punishment debate comes down in essentials to a debate over deterrence. I can understand that some people are skeptical about the evidence, although I believe they are wrong both on the evidence and on the common sense of the issue. It is very unpleasant to take someone's life, even a murderer's life, but sometimes highly unpleasant actions are necessary to deter even worse behavior that takes the lives of innocent victims.
COREY: If one lethal injection murder would "deter" a murder on the street, then one beheading [sh]ould deter 10.
In theory, sure.
COREY: There is just one problem, lots of research shows that it isn't the severity of the punishment that deters but the certainty of punishment.
We now disagree. The above is misleading, perhaps unintentionally. Punishment is analyzed by probability of punishment times severity. So, a 50% chance of a fine of $10,000 is equivalent to a 100% chance of a fine of $5,000. (.5 x 10,000 = 1 x 5,000). You can tweak either the likelihood of punishment or the severity of punishment to acheive the intended deterrence level.
In studies that Gary Becker pioneered, he demonstrated that one can raise the severity of fines while the chance of getting caught remains constant, which results in a reduction of administration costs (e.g., having the death penalty costs less than maintaining a police force of a million). So, it is more efficient, all things being equal, to institute the death penalty than to increase the numbers of beat cops.
Posted by: W | 12/21/2005 at 05:18 PM
Something about the low crime rates existing in countries that do not use capital punishment invalidates the argument that it is an effective deterent for me.
Furthermore, I think that reducing capital punishment to an econometric problem with a mathematical solution removes a lot of the complexity implicit in the moral problem. I just have a hard time reconciling numbers as a dictation of a state'ss moral obligation.
Posted by: ian | 12/21/2005 at 11:11 PM
1) As a supporter of the death penalty (who thinks that Kant got it exactly right when he said that if a society were to be dissolved, the FIRST thing that must be done before dissolution is to execute every remaining murderer in prison, and who also suggested that we dignify the murderer as a rational moral being by executing him), I rather like the idea of bringing back the old custom of public executions (a la Machiavelli) to maximize the deterrent effect. Just make sure that the crime is recounted in graphic detail before the execution lest people misplace their compassion.
2) If improving educational and job opportunities is the way to reduce crime, why did crime rates skyrocket after the Great Society? Indeed, as the late Ed Banfield pointed out, more schooling, more income, and more opportunity may very well increase crime rates in certain circumstances (e.g., urban versus rural areas).
3) If capital punishment is a deterrent, it should be effective at any given crime rate, whether low or high. I don't think that Becker and Posner are arguing that the threat of capital punishment is the single most important determinant of the murder rate (I presume that moral capital and the likelihood of being caught rank higher).
Posted by: Perseus | 12/22/2005 at 04:18 AM
Do you think that the death penalty truncates marginal deterrence so that we have more multiple murders than a situation where additional punishment is meted out before execution? This was more or less the medieval system. In modern terms electrocution is probably a stronger deterrent to single murders than lethal injection.
Posted by: bob tollison | 12/22/2005 at 02:07 PM
Since the death penalty was abolished in Great Britaiin in 1965 the murder rate has increased rapidly. This is prima facie evidence for its deterrent effect.
For details see: 'Malice aforethought' makes a would-be murderer think again, By Ferdinand Mount, 23/12/2005, Daily Telegraph
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/
Posted by: Ross Firestone | 12/23/2005 at 08:25 AM
Is it possible that making prisons the deterent criminals will be less willing to trade their freedom for stark prison conditions? Is is cruel and unusual to limit perks (fitness, computers, television, etc.) to only model prisoners. IF prisons were designed to provide the deterrent to future crime, and LIFE in prison meant that life would be without the "comforts" of home, recidivism might decrease.
To kill or not to kill? How about taking away the weight rooms, drugs, and sex from prisoners?
Posted by: haole | 12/23/2005 at 09:37 AM
IF prisons were designed to provide the deterrent to future crime, and LIFE in prison meant that life would be without the "comforts" of home, recidivism might decrease.Harsh punishment might deter first time criminals - prticularly for minor crimes. For example, if speeding resulted in an automatic one year prison sentence, there would be a lot less speeding.It is not clear, however, that harsh punishment would deter repeat offenders. If the punishment wasn't enough to deter them the first time, it is unlikely to deter them a second time unless they fundamentally change their world view.Many, if not most, violent criminals grew up in harsh abusive environments. If anything, harsh treatment in prison will only reinforce the world view that led them to commit their first offense.Most crimes are not punished with life in prison which means that eventually the criminals end up back in society. Obviously, it is very desirable that criminals leave prison with a different world view than when they committed their original crime.
Posted by: Wes | 12/23/2005 at 11:01 AM
In Posner and Becker's nearly 2,000 words on capital punishment, the word "race" appears not once.
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Posted by: Igor | 12/24/2005 at 11:44 AM
If you are interested in reviewing the recent deterrence studies, some of the citations can be found in notes 8 and 19-21 of this paper by Cass Sunstein and Adrian Vermeule: http://www.aei-brookings.org/admin/authorpdfs/page.php?id=1131
Posted by: Jon | 12/24/2005 at 08:26 PM
"European countries have higher per capita property crime rates than the United States does, although violent crimes are still considerably more common in the United States."
Not if you believe Interpol. Several years ago I checked the homicide rates at the Interpol web stite for various European countries and found some surprises. For example to cite but a few, Belgium had a homicide rate about equal to the US, while Scotland (but not the UK as a whole) had three times the murder rate of the US. But today if you visit the Interpol web site, you will find they have now closed off crime statisticsÔøΩÔøΩavailable for law enforcement only.ÔøΩ But you can still get some using the ÔøΩwaybackÔøΩ engine. Why would Interpol do such a thing? IÔøΩll speculate that the Europeans were so embarrassed they pressured Interpol to remove access.
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